Hi everyone,
I may be missing it but is there an option to add a passing score to a program? Is there a way to stop learners to move the next course in a program if they fail a course?
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone,
I may be missing it but is there an option to add a passing score to a program? Is there a way to stop learners to move the next course in a program if they fail a course?
Thanks so much!
Hi Joshua,
First of all thanks so much for your response.
Duysal Karakus | she,her,hers
Practice Specialist
Community Access
17 Battery Place, Suite 1326
New York, NY 10004
Phone: 212.780.1400 x7800
Fax: 212.780.1404
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Hi Joshua,
I am so sorry as you may imagine I haven’t completed the e-mail. Your response is helpful and something different happened for the program we created.
In our program we have 6 courses, we chose the option, “Learners complete program content in order” and all courses have 80% passing grade and we limit the attempts to two. So we have at least one person reported as complete the program but they failed one of the courses. Even though they failed a course they were still allowed to move on next one. One of the BRIDGE support tech said that because we limited attempts it allows learners to move on even if they fail a course. So we are confused☹
We also don’t see an accumulated passing score for the program in the report section. That is not there right? You can only see the scores at course level in terms of report.
I also cc:ed my co-worker who is involved.
Thanks so much
Duysal and Karen
Duysal Karakus | she,her,hers
Practice Specialist
Community Access
17 Battery Place, Suite 1326
New York, NY 10004
Phone: 212.780.1400 x7800
Fax: 212.780.1404
www.communityaccess.org<http://www.communityaccess.org>
I see. What Support is telling you is correct. I'll try to explain for the benefit of all.
Bridge has a status I'll refer to as the "permanently failed" status. What that means is the person has reached their maximum number of attempts on a course and are no longer considered incomplete. There are two records that are sent in the background of a course (this is true for Bridge native courses and SCORM courses). The first is a completion status. That gets sent as "incomplete" or "completed." The second is the passed status. That is sent as "passed" or "failed." You can have various combinations of these statuses.
A combination of "incomplete" and "failed" allows the learner to take the course again. A combination of "complete" and "failed" puts the course in the "permanently failed" state. When you are in a "permanently failed" state, you are considered "complete" on the course. That's why it's unlocking the second course.
If you want it to absolutely not move on to the next course unless they get 80%, you have to give them unlimited attempts so that it continues to report as "incomplete" when they are also in the "failed" status.
As for the last part about the score, it makes sense that programs don't have a score because a program is simply a collection of courses. There is no "completion" attached to a program other than completing all the courses within it.
I hope this helps clarify some things. Let me know if you have more questions on it.
Yes and yes! Passing scores are actually controlled at the course level which cumulatively affect the passing of the program...in a way. I'll illustrate. Let's say you want the passing score for a program that contains 3 courses to be 80%. If you set the passing scores for all 3 courses to 80%, you have basically caused the passing rate for the program to be 80%. Of course, not all the courses need to have the same pass rate. You could "weight" one of the courses heavier by making it's pass rate higher. For example, you could make the three courses a pass rate of 80%, but then the final exam a pass rate of 100%. That's part of what makes programs so cool.
As for your second question, when you build a program, there is an option at the top of the course list that you can change between "Learners complete program content in order" and "Learners complete program content in any order." The first option will stop them from continuing to the next course if they don't pass the course before it. The second option will allow them to do the courses/tasks in any order they choose.
So in the first example (in the first paragraph), if you set the courses to a pass rate of 80% and then set the program to "Learners complete program content in order" they will have to score at least 80% on the first course before they can take the second one. Then they have to get at least 80% on the second one before taking the third.
Let me know if you have any other questions about how this works. It's cool stuff.